170d11 33l/100km without load

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170d11 33l/100km without load

#1 Beitrag von Peterdenmark » 2015-06-08 14:35:55

Hi!

I am doing a little trial run around Sweden and Danmark. My first tour with the family.

The consumption is around 33 liters / 100km when driwing between 60 and 76 km

Mostly I have been driving slowly because the tires are not very well balanced so they jump alot at >70kmh.

This seems like a high consumption no? The car is stock and I have very little weight with me.

Also the top speed of 76 on flat road seems very low. Is this normal?

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Re: 170d11 33l/100km without load

#2 Beitrag von Ulf H » 2015-06-08 14:41:06

... do you use bigger tires than original ... is the speedometer calibrated? ... ist the speed of speedmeter very different to that from the navigatiionsystem / GPS? ...

... Yes, 33 l/100km ist to much for a slow traveling 170D11 ...

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Re: 170d11 33l/100km without load

#3 Beitrag von Alter Schwede » 2015-06-08 14:44:42

Hi,

33L/100 km sounds a little much too high.

What is the origin of your truck? Dumper, tipper, fire truck?

Did you check the differential locks and if you're on high or low speed gear?


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Re: 170d11 33l/100km without load

#4 Beitrag von OliverM » 2015-06-08 14:50:13

Peterdenmark hat geschrieben: Also the top speed of 76 on flat road seems very low. Is this normal?

Maybe Transfer box in Low range ?

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Re: 170d11 33l/100km without load

#5 Beitrag von Peterdenmark » 2015-06-08 17:24:36

Hello. Speed is tested with two different gps.

I have tried to work the lever for the g/s gear but nothing seems to happen. I can hear a "pffff" from the air but I can not see any levers working on the outside of the gearbox. Does the"action" happen inside the gearbox? Or on the differential?

I have also tried to use the lever on a gravel road but the speed did not seem to be much different in the low gears.

I have the original 8.25r20 tires on the car.

It is a firetruck with a 9 person cabin. 1972 with 5 foreward gears.

Thank you for your ideas and replies!

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Re: 170d11 33l/100km without load

#6 Beitrag von dave » 2015-06-08 18:15:12

hi peter,
that sounds pretty much like the same gear ratio, tire size, topspeed and fuel consumption our magirus170 (from 1971) had, so i guess its all normal. 77 km/h at top rpm is a really low gear ratio, much like constantly driving in second gear with a normal car. solution: mount bigger tires :cool:
on 14.50R20 wheels, fuel consumption dropped to an average of 25 l/100 km, absolute minimum was approx 19 l/100 km.
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Re: 170d11 33l/100km without load

#7 Beitrag von Peterdenmark » 2015-06-08 19:31:04

Hi Dave

Yes that sounds like a similar situation. Do you use the original rims?

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Re: 170d11 33l/100km without load

#8 Beitrag von dave » 2015-06-08 23:05:07

hi peter,
we used different, wider rims for the bigger tires. the original rims are too narrow for that tire sizes.
finding the right rims will need some work and/or some money (or some luck) and its one of the most discussed topics here: 8 bolts, proper rim offset, load capacity and clearance for using it at a truck (for example agricultural or construction machines may have fitting rims, but its likely they are not allowed to be used at truck speeds) etc. .
i'am out of that tire-topic since many years, others will have better information.
on the smaller magirus 120 i liked the 12.00R20 trailer tires on rims from the russian SIL 131 (aka "russenfelgen"): very good in the desert and very smooth and fuelsaving on tarmac - but completely useless in wet meadows:
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Re: 170d11 33l/100km without load

#9 Beitrag von Peterdenmark » 2015-06-10 7:44:59

Awesome info, thank you David! :unwuerdig:

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